tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post8548212903540260898..comments2023-10-17T08:48:44.310-07:00Comments on Hoosiers For Fair Taxation: April 15th Indiana Tea Party Activists...please read this messageM Theoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-31459175286705449552009-03-30T06:56:00.000-07:002009-03-30T06:56:00.000-07:00Thank you very sincerely for the positive mention....Thank you very sincerely for the positive mention. I've been feeling pretty down lately, and it was nice to get a pat on the back ...before I get the jackboot in my back.Andrew Horninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12668206490848370177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-40571300688162496992009-03-24T07:08:00.000-07:002009-03-24T07:08:00.000-07:00What tea party conference call?This is kind of wha...What tea party conference call?<BR/><BR/>This is kind of what I was trying to get at. The people that have been at this sort of thing for a while have all kinds of e-mail lists, Facebook groups, Meetup.com groups and, when necessary, each other's cell phone numbers. Lots of stuff gets shared between the leaders of these various groups who then make their own judgments on what to pass on based on appropriateness to the cause.<BR/><BR/>It just seems to make sense to be sure and leverage those channels to distribute information. Heck, for the right cause, lots of these people will pony up their own money (I don't even want to know how much Melyssa has spent in the past two years).<BR/><BR/>And understand too that a lot of my comments and concern are directed along the lines of trying to figure out if people are serious and have finally awoken or if it's just a partisan movement and they will still just blindly support the next pro-FED, pro-big government, tax code expanding and tinkering, free speech violating, gun control supporting candidate just because he has an "R" (or any other letter) after his or her name.<BR/><BR/>Ideology and principles should always trump membership and misplaced loyalty in what is basically a "club".<BR/><BR/>I will freely admit to being very angry at the missed opportunities and statist expansions of the Bush administration and Republican Congress earlier this decade. And even though he is gone, there was still a complicit Congress and loyal party following.<BR/><BR/>McCain was not going to be any better and mostly, regardless of Obama or McCain, it really comes down to nuance on everything but maybe a few issues and some of those not even anything government should even have a say in. <BR/><BR/>BUT, absolutely, the more people getting out there and making sure politicians have to pay attention or risk getting booted out of office, the better. <BR/><BR/>Just don't shoot people who have lived long enough to no longer be fooled by broken promises of the usual stable of politicians.<BR/><BR/>"Change" - we now bomb Pakistan instead of Iraq<BR/>"Hope" - hope for the dollar to retain ANY value when this is over<BR/><BR/>"Hope for Change" - 2012.Sean Shepardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04784017076656340302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-7637959105441924532009-03-23T19:41:00.000-07:002009-03-23T19:41:00.000-07:00Didn't hear any of you on the tea party conference...Didn't hear any of you on the tea party conference call tonite, and I actually went on so that I could hear you tell them your thoughts on the food drive. As a report, they appear to feel they'll have 250 such tea parties on April 15th. <BR/><BR/>Good for them, a lot of work, I hope it gets some attention and helps all the movements get an influx of volunteers and money too.daltonsbriefshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10848952073180198356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-40534176078470223762009-03-22T22:46:00.000-07:002009-03-22T22:46:00.000-07:00HFFT - I mentioned Walker based on the kinds of le...HFFT - I mentioned Walker based on the kinds of legislation he has helped introduce and Delph from my personal experience and interactions with him (he's my State Senator).<BR/><BR/>It did occur to me though that it is probably worth mentioning Dave Bond from STOP Indiana and Josh Gillespie from Hoosier Access. Both good really excellent people who have put a lot of work into the tax effort in Dave's case and reporting on Hoosier Politics in Josh's case. Diane Vice is another one (and an upcoming speaker on Wednesday!!)<BR/><BR/><BR/>I know there are tons of others. But these are all folks that didn't just wake up one day because the wrong party held the presidency and suddenly all the money being spent must be wrong (it is, but...)<BR/><BR/>These partnerships and friendships and the resulting work in areas where there is common agreement have been built and forged over the past decade (or longer in some cases I'm sure). <BR/><BR/>And these people aren't ones that got involved so they can feel important on some stage somewhere pretending to be all pro-liberty and patriotic. These people were fighting the fight and doing work when it was not cool, not appreciated and not just some political fad.<BR/><BR/>Let's hope the new interest in things sticks! The Orlando event looks like it was wonderful (but where in the world did they get the money for that? that wasn't a 'grass roots' stage and sound system)... LOLSean Shepardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04784017076656340302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-43917294879898603922009-03-22T22:44:00.000-07:002009-03-22T22:44:00.000-07:00You people are smart not to trust republican insid...You people are smart not to trust republican insiders or the mainstream media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-3600375355122443262009-03-22T21:51:00.000-07:002009-03-22T21:51:00.000-07:00Oh...and also Senator Weatherwax!Oh...and also Senator Weatherwax!M Theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-60472827651127740002009-03-22T21:50:00.000-07:002009-03-22T21:50:00.000-07:00Don't forget guys like Senator Waltz who is an adv...Don't forget guys like Senator Waltz who is an advocate for property tax repeal. <BR/><BR/>And also Senators Kruse and Stutzman too!M Theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-73668941892017940352009-03-22T21:28:00.000-07:002009-03-22T21:28:00.000-07:00briefs - your characterization of what I said rela...briefs - your characterization of what I said relative to Representative Ron Paul is not accurate. I merely pointed out what lots of others have figured out over the past year, "oh yeah, crap, he was right." OR there is something they still need education on.<BR/><BR/>The only real disagreement I hear anymore is from people who really do think we should bully the world with our military presence on every street corner of the world. Arguably, the cause of much of the aggression against our nation. The Republicans need to decide if principled folks like Sanford, Paul and Flake are the future of their party or if business as usual in Jindal, Romney and Huckabee are.<BR/><BR/>I agree very much with what you said about lots of small wins. We're not quite to the point where people either pick up weapons or call for secession and go for "one big win" but a lot fewer people seem opposed to those ideas than ever.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, all of these newly awakened folks need to make sure they quit endorsing the status quo, pick an organization like the LP, RLC, C4L or whatever. If the motivation is just opposing the out of control Democrat regime in government right now, that is intellectually dishonest since most mainstream Republicans have continued to endorse the kinds of policies and interventions that have gotten us to where we are at.<BR/><BR/>Somebody mentioned they had never heard of some of this past decades pro-liberty organizational leaders in Indiana, including Andy Horning. Nobody has paid any attention to elections in Indiana and not become familiar with, and a fan of, Andrew Horning (2-time gubernatorial candidate, 2-time congressional candidate, including once as a Republican, and pro-constitution and tax reform activist - heck, he had more name ID in 2008 than the Democrat candidate for Governor did)<BR/><BR/>Let's make sure we get some names out there:<BR/><BR/>Melissa Lineberry - acting State Director for Campaign for Liberty<BR/>Charlie Kochenash - head of the Indiana RLC chapter (I think he's a northern Indiana guy)<BR/>Chris Spangle - Exec. Director, Libertarian Party of Indiana<BR/>Todd Singer - State Chair, Libertarian Party of Indiana<BR/>Mark Rutherford - Immediate past (and long-time) Chair<BR/>Dan Drexler - Vice Chair, LPIN (Northern Indiana guy)<BR/>Rebecca Sink-Burris, Regional Representative to the LNC<BR/>Dan Higgins - State Director, Americans for Fair Taxation (based in Peru)<BR/>Ron Heilman - Immediate past State Director of AFFT (based in Ft. Wayne)<BR/>Melyssa Donaghy - Hoosiers for Fair Taxation<BR/>Tim Maguire - LPMC Chairman<BR/>Sean Shepard - AFFT and LPMC Comm Director / MeetUp organizer. Operator of Libertyfile.com<BR/>Gregg Puls - Long time RLC/Republican Assembly guy<BR/>Ed Coleman - Libertarian Indianapolis City Councilman<BR/>Greg Walker - Republican State Senator (authored honest money and sovereignty resolutions)<BR/>Mike Delph - Republican State Senator (co-authored sovereignty resolution [SCR 37])<BR/><BR/>With few exceptions, most of the people listed above all know, know of each other or are 1 degree of seperation away).<BR/><BR/>JBS has a presence but I don't think I know Lynette's last name.<BR/>Constitution Party has a guy somewhere.<BR/><BR/>There are numerous district directors, county chairs and representatives for many of these groups as well. Fees to join are typically $25 (LPIN, RLCIN and AFFT I think), $35 (C4L)<BR/><BR/>Sending donations to Advance Indiana, HFFT or LibertyFile are always good too. ;-)Sean Shepardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04784017076656340302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-17969057637672334062009-03-22T19:55:00.000-07:002009-03-22T19:55:00.000-07:00Yes, briefs...you are right. And these people are ...Yes, briefs...you are right. <BR/><BR/>And these people are hard working coalitions that the national tea party leadership ignores. WHY is that do you suppose? <BR/><BR/>You think it is because the real activists are a threat to the status quo in the republican party? <BR/><BR/>I sure do! <BR/><BR/>And why is a NON partisan billed movement led by Republican Party insiders? Smelly, fishy business, huh? <BR/><BR/>And why hasn't the Republican party REPENTED for its many sins against America? <BR/><BR/>I don't trust one bit the intentions behind this bogus grass roots tea party business. <BR/><BR/>Michael Patrick Leahy....PLEASE!M Theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-49151335072532399772009-03-22T19:02:00.000-07:002009-03-22T19:02:00.000-07:00Anonymous, if you are indeed a Republican, then wh...Anonymous, if you are indeed a Republican, then why would you stay in the Republican Party? <BR/><BR/>It sounds like it left the conservatives and you sound like a battered spouse. <BR/><BR/>Why would Michelle Malkin stick around for that kind of abuse? <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure why you keep going back for more abuse! <BR/><BR/>We're here for your intervention!M Theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-86182744962949996412009-03-22T18:14:00.000-07:002009-03-22T18:14:00.000-07:00Each conservative talking head has their own stren...Each conservative talking head has their own strengths, and yes I agree with anonymous that we should all be learning to work together. <BR/><BR/>Read on another post below Sean's thoughts that anyone disagreeing with the Ron Paul (liberty now) philosophies isn't truly on board ... that's foolish talk. This will take hundreds of small wins, in elections and education.daltonsbriefshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10848952073180198356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4679367111526265280.post-54987562538608419882009-03-22T16:46:00.000-07:002009-03-22T16:46:00.000-07:00This conservative was mad about Bush's tilt to the...This conservative was mad about Bush's tilt to the left and we made our opinions known to representatives and senators and the President. The conservative talkers also spent the last 6 years complaining abouy what was going on but in case you haven't noticed the government doesn't give a damn what we think any longer. That is why we have this mess- they ignore our opinions on borders, immigration, taxation, socialism programs etc. That is why this is important for everyone to show up to the tea parties regardless of beliefs and stop the snipping- I see the pictures of the protestors -they look like ordinary families not anarchists as was suggested. On Michele Malkin they were showing huge protest crowds which are not being reported. Look it up. So stop the bickering and concentrate on getting people to show up to protest the Marxist government steam rolling along. A lot of this also was organized by Glen Beck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com