A) "Ron Polarik" is a made-up entity - a pseudonym. Trusting a fake person is inviting all kinds of ridicule. What does "Ron Polarik" have to hide that he/she/it can't use a real name. And PhD? Really? Any proof?
B) Linking to a vicious anti-Jewish, conspiracy-theory loving site like 4Winds doesn't increase the odds that anybody will listen to or believe your case. Especially when that case is being made anonymously.
"Ron Polarik" isn't even a real name. Might as well have said "Ann Onimus, PhD".
Even if the PhD is real (and that's debatable), it's in Education, not Forensic Science. Do look up the requirements for a PhD in Instructional Media. Little to nothing to do with document verification.
That doesn't automatically disqualify a person's knowledge and abilities, but using the "PhD" title to somehow "qualify" them as an expert leads me to discount propositions put forth by such persons.
Anonymous? What does Obama have to hide that he will not show the American people his birth certificate and his passports?
Any proof he's an American?
You can try all you want to pin a racist label on me, it won't stick. That's because I'm not one. And my boyfriend is jewish, btw. I'm hardly anti-jewish.
In the August, 13th, 1961 edition of 2 different Honolulu Newspapers, in the "Announcements" section, there is an announcement of Barack Obama's birth, to Stanley Anne Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. The newspapers received their reporting directly from the hospitals.
The above link has images of each newspaper, with the date visible (August 13th, 1961) and obtained from microfilm.
For "Polarik"'s case to make sense, one would have to assume that Obama's parents, back in 1961, knew that Obama would one day run for President and somehow trick the local papers (which reports birth announcements based on Hospital reporting) into publishing a fake "announcement" - an announcement easily found by microfilm/fiche and even on hard copies of the August,13 1961 Newspaper in which it was originally reported.
Note that Mr. "Polarik" and others never mention this newspaper announcement - because, of course, it shatters their argument.
The "research," therefore, is absurd, and easily dismissed by that old standby, the daily newspaper.
And having a "Jewish Boyfriend" doesn't mean anything when you're linking to anti-Semitic websites.
My interest in this matter has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with needing assurance that the president of my country is meets constitutional requirement. I can link to any sites I want. I live in a free country or don't I?
I get information from all kinds of sources. Get over yourself, grow a set, and have the courage to post your name.
It bothers me that Obama refuses to release his college records and his birth certificate. What is he hiding from us?
Well, generally I post my name, but since you've posted on this site your recent purchase of 100 rounds of Ammunition, and google makes it pretty easy to obtain my address, you'll understand why I abstain.
Will you post your birth certificate here? Your college records?
For Obama to do so only fuels the conspiracy theorists. Have you ever seen George W Bush's Birth Certificate? He's never made it public, either...
Do yourself a favor - if you think that fourwinds is anti-semite, take a look at your own link to WRH. Try not to be hypocritical.
FYI - I don't think either are anti-semitic - they're anti-zionist. The analogy to your claim would be "He is opposed to the political ideology of George Bush, therefere, he is anti-Christian". It's an assinine claim.
Also, Rivero at WRH has recently revealed himself to be another gatekeeping stooge with his support of another globalist puppet - aka Obama.
If things turn out as I expect, Obama's lasting legacy won't be as the first black President. It'll be as the last US President. The US military has already ordered over 20,000 troops to be deployed on US soil to help out. Anyone who voted for "change" is gonna get everything that they asked for and more.
And Melyssa - the stated objective of the Four Winds website is to promote the belief that aliens are currently circling the earth in preparation to deliver us into the 5th dimension by the year 2012. Their actual objective is to mix unreported news with a mixture of insane claims in order to create a sense of illegitimacy among readers.
Fore example, "Is Ron Paul a wingnut? Of course he is - Four Winds promotes the guy." You can link a perfectly legitimate article from this kind of website and it will quickly lose all legitimacy because readers will associate it with the website rather than actually considering the content. My estimation is that, like Mike Rivero's WRH site (where "Anonymous" linked the Obama birth announcement), Four Winds is another gatekeeper website. They have a whacked out agenda, and they link legitimate stories in order to discredit them by associating them with their website.
"Well, generally I post my name, but since you've posted on this site your recent purchase of 100 rounds of Ammunition, and google makes it pretty easy to obtain my address, you'll understand why I abstain."
Sorry to pick on you, anonymous, but I need to comment on the above statement.
Do we have something to fear if we post on a blog that discusses normal, law-abiding, Constitutionaly protected activities? Was something bad, suspect, or illegal recommended here? Something that might warrant monitoring, and that citizens who don't want to be "implicated" should be wary of?
"Sorry to pick on you, anonymous, but I need to comment on the above statement.
Do we have something to fear if we post on a blog that discusses normal, law-abiding, Constitutionaly protected activities? Was something bad, suspect, or illegal recommended here? Something that might warrant monitoring, and that citizens who don't want to be "implicated" should be wary of?
What's your concern?"
My concern?
I have a family, my name is unique, can be easily googled, I own my home and am therefore in Indiana databases regarding property transfers. The last thing I want is for my wife to open the door to some wingnut with a gun.
Call me paranoid or whatever, but I've had a gun pointed at me, many years ago. It wasn't fun. I would never wish that on anybody.
And while I am sure any gun nuts out there are about to pounce on me as some wuss, I will let you all know that I am a hunter, but I only hunt with long- and cross-bow. It seems much more sporting that way. Using 100 rounds to take down a deer is pretty lame.
Anonymous...I say you are a coward. I post my name on here everyday. It's very easy to learn where I live. No one has come to my house with a gun.
You think I'm so stupid I didn't think about that before I started posting my opinion to this blog? I did. But I decided my words would mean a hell of lot more if I put my name to them.
I worry my government will come to my house with a gun to take away my 2nd Amendment Freedom though.
Naturally, you have a right to post any information you want, but if your purpose is to seek the truth, then you should make sure you vet the information. I'm an academic. I will have my PhD in a year or so. As far as I can tell, Mr. "Polarik" is lying about his credentials (which is pretty damned ironic, if you think about it). Thus, he has no expertise to say that the records Obama has released are a forgery. Maybe he does have a PhD from a degree mill. I could buy a doctorate online for a couple hundred bucks, but it doesn't make him the expert he claims to be. Thus, it calls his alleged expert opinion into question. In other words, he is lying, and your blog is disseminating lies. Generally, the best way to win a debate is to disseminate truth. Doing otherwise hurts your credibility.
True, Obama has not released his birth certificate (which I'm sure Mr. Polarik would also declare a forgery). But this is not proof. It's an argumentum ad ignorantiam. (Surely, he must be up to something! Gasp!)
David
P.s. It is also ironic that you lambaste people for failing to use their real names, when Mr. Polarik, whom you cite as a source, is clearly a pussy for hiding his true identity.
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You are aware that:
A) "Ron Polarik" is a made-up entity - a pseudonym. Trusting a fake person is inviting all kinds of ridicule. What does "Ron Polarik" have to hide that he/she/it can't use a real name. And PhD? Really? Any proof?
B) Linking to a vicious anti-Jewish, conspiracy-theory loving site like 4Winds doesn't increase the odds that anybody will listen to or believe your case. Especially when that case is being made anonymously.
Jeez, Melyssa.
"Ron Polarik" isn't even a real name. Might as well have said "Ann Onimus, PhD".
Even if the PhD is real (and that's debatable), it's in Education, not Forensic Science. Do look up the requirements for a PhD in Instructional Media. Little to nothing to do with document verification.
That doesn't automatically disqualify a person's knowledge and abilities, but using the "PhD" title to somehow "qualify" them as an expert leads me to discount propositions put forth by such persons.
I'm putting the information out there. I don't care about race or religion. What I do care about is the fact that Barack Obama is not vetted.
Don't attack the writer, attack this research please.
Anonymous? What does Obama have to hide that he will not show the American people his birth certificate and his passports?
Any proof he's an American?
You can try all you want to pin a racist label on me, it won't stick. That's because I'm not one. And my boyfriend is jewish, btw. I'm hardly anti-jewish.
In the August, 13th, 1961 edition of 2 different Honolulu Newspapers, in the "Announcements" section, there is an announcement of Barack Obama's birth, to Stanley Anne Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. The newspapers received their reporting directly from the hospitals.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
The above link has images of each newspaper, with the date visible (August 13th, 1961) and obtained from microfilm.
For "Polarik"'s case to make sense, one would have to assume that Obama's parents, back in 1961, knew that Obama would one day run for President and somehow trick the local papers (which reports birth announcements based on Hospital reporting) into publishing a fake "announcement" - an announcement easily found by microfilm/fiche and even on hard copies of the August,13 1961 Newspaper in which it was originally reported.
Note that Mr. "Polarik" and others never mention this newspaper announcement - because, of course, it shatters their argument.
The "research," therefore, is absurd, and easily dismissed by that old standby, the daily newspaper.
And having a "Jewish Boyfriend" doesn't mean anything when you're linking to anti-Semitic websites.
My interest in this matter has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with needing assurance that the president of my country is meets constitutional requirement. I can link to any sites I want. I live in a free country or don't I?
I get information from all kinds of sources. Get over yourself, grow a set, and have the courage to post your name.
It bothers me that Obama refuses to release his college records and his birth certificate. What is he hiding from us?
Well, generally I post my name, but since you've posted on this site your recent purchase of 100 rounds of Ammunition, and google makes it pretty easy to obtain my address, you'll understand why I abstain.
Will you post your birth certificate here? Your college records?
For Obama to do so only fuels the conspiracy theorists. Have you ever seen George W Bush's Birth Certificate? He's never made it public, either...
If I was running for POTUS, I certainly would publish my records.
However, I am a private citizen not held to the same scrutiny as my employee, Barack Obama.
I do provide my birth certificate information, proof of citizenship, and background check to my employer, however.
We should expect no less from President-elect Obama
Hey Anonymous,
Do yourself a favor - if you think that fourwinds is anti-semite, take a look at your own link to WRH. Try not to be hypocritical.
FYI - I don't think either are anti-semitic - they're anti-zionist. The analogy to your claim would be "He is opposed to the political ideology of George Bush, therefere, he is anti-Christian". It's an assinine claim.
Also, Rivero at WRH has recently revealed himself to be another gatekeeping stooge with his support of another globalist puppet - aka Obama.
If things turn out as I expect, Obama's lasting legacy won't be as the first black President. It'll be as the last US President. The US military has already ordered over 20,000 troops to be deployed on US soil to help out. Anyone who voted for "change" is gonna get everything that they asked for and more.
And Melyssa - the stated objective of the Four Winds website is to promote the belief that aliens are currently circling the earth in preparation to deliver us into the 5th dimension by the year 2012. Their actual objective is to mix unreported news with a mixture of insane claims in order to create a sense of illegitimacy among readers.
Fore example, "Is Ron Paul a wingnut? Of course he is - Four Winds promotes the guy." You can link a perfectly legitimate article from this kind of website and it will quickly lose all legitimacy because readers will associate it with the website rather than actually considering the content. My estimation is that, like Mike Rivero's WRH site (where "Anonymous" linked the Obama birth announcement), Four Winds is another gatekeeper website. They have a whacked out agenda, and they link legitimate stories in order to discredit them by associating them with their website.
"Well, generally I post my name, but since you've posted on this site your recent purchase of 100 rounds of Ammunition, and google makes it pretty easy to obtain my address, you'll understand why I abstain."
Sorry to pick on you, anonymous, but I need to comment on the above statement.
Do we have something to fear if we post on a blog that discusses normal, law-abiding, Constitutionaly protected activities? Was something bad, suspect, or illegal recommended here? Something that might warrant monitoring, and that citizens who don't want to be "implicated" should be wary of?
What's your concern?
Shorebreak, I wish those UFOs would hurry up and land!
"Sorry to pick on you, anonymous, but I need to comment on the above statement.
Do we have something to fear if we post on a blog that discusses normal, law-abiding, Constitutionaly protected activities? Was something bad, suspect, or illegal recommended here? Something that might warrant monitoring, and that citizens who don't want to be "implicated" should be wary of?
What's your concern?"
My concern?
I have a family, my name is unique, can be easily googled, I own my home and am therefore in Indiana databases regarding property transfers. The last thing I want is for my wife to open the door to some wingnut with a gun.
Call me paranoid or whatever, but I've had a gun pointed at me, many years ago. It wasn't fun. I would never wish that on anybody.
And while I am sure any gun nuts out there are about to pounce on me as some wuss, I will let you all know that I am a hunter, but I only hunt with long- and cross-bow. It seems much more sporting that way. Using 100 rounds to take down a deer is pretty lame.
Anonymous...I say you are a coward. I post my name on here everyday. It's very easy to learn where I live. No one has come to my house with a gun.
You think I'm so stupid I didn't think about that before I started posting my opinion to this blog? I did. But I decided my words would mean a hell of lot more if I put my name to them.
I worry my government will come to my house with a gun to take away my 2nd Amendment Freedom though.
Come on - since you are on the same side as the gun nuts, of course nobody's come after you. You'll have to try better than that!
Naturally, you have a right to post any information you want, but if your purpose is to seek the truth, then you should make sure you vet the information. I'm an academic. I will have my PhD in a year or so. As far as I can tell, Mr. "Polarik" is lying about his credentials (which is pretty damned ironic, if you think about it). Thus, he has no expertise to say that the records Obama has released are a forgery. Maybe he does have a PhD from a degree mill. I could buy a doctorate online for a couple hundred bucks, but it doesn't make him the expert he claims to be. Thus, it calls his alleged expert opinion into question. In other words, he is lying, and your blog is disseminating lies. Generally, the best way to win a debate is to disseminate truth. Doing otherwise hurts your credibility.
True, Obama has not released his birth certificate (which I'm sure Mr. Polarik would also declare a forgery). But this is not proof. It's an argumentum ad ignorantiam. (Surely, he must be up to something! Gasp!)
David
P.s. It is also ironic that you lambaste people for failing to use their real names, when Mr. Polarik, whom you cite as a source, is clearly a pussy for hiding his true identity.
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